MEDVEDEV: Moreover, if we are talking about issues related to business, I would have thought that they could not all be approached selectively. Now we're in a crisis. But take a look at some of the legal processes that have taken place in other countries - there have been some real wrangles. Some businessmen have been given very long sentences: 150 years in the United States of America itself. Why is it that somehow no one is unduly upset about this case? Nevertheless, I believe that in different situations different governmental procedures apply and the reactions of different nations are perhaps going to be different. I just wanted to emphasise this point. At the end this is an individual matter.
FABRIZIO DRAGOSEI: Do you think that these cases in the United States [of Bernard Madoff etc.] and Khodorkovsky's resemble each other? In the West they are seen as quite different. In the West Khodorkovsky is perceived as a man who suffered from the dismemberment of YUKOS and was convicted for not only legal and technical reasons but some others as well.
DMITRY MEDVEDEV: You know, perhaps my perception of this is different from those of other observers. I am looking at it from a legal point of view, the only way a President can look at it. Khodorkovsky and some other businessmen in Russia were convicted by Russian courts. This was not a political event - the decision of the judicial authorities has to be reckoned with. All procedures involving Khodorkovsky and other business people tried in our courts must be carried out in full accord with Russian criminal procedure law. This is my firm conviction.
But I mentioned the case of American businessmen to point out that businesses may face problems all over the world in their relationships with the governments or specific individuals, problems that involve criminal responsibility. So to take one case and consider it out of context seems inappropriate to me. That's all I'm saying.
Well there is a very simple and straightforward response on my personal behalf to this argument. If Khodorkovsky were the Bernard Madoff of Russia, then President Obama would be a multi-billionaire and owner of half the companies on the New York Stock Exchange. The true Madoff of Russia exists, his name is Igor Sechin, and he just hasn't been caught yet.


